Steesh Talks Baron Von Alias, Hip-Hop Time Travel, Masta Ace, Elzhi & His 18-Year Journey
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What happens when a British Hip-Hop producer creates an eccentric, mustache-wearing aristocrat who travels through time to collaborate with some of the culture’s most respected MCs? You get Baron Von Alias, the alter ego of Newcastle producer Steesh, and a musical journey nearly two decades in the making.
Long before streaming platforms, underground Hip-Hop thrived through independent labels, mixtapes and ambitious compilations. Projects like Rawkus Records’ Soundbombing II and Pete Rock’s Soul Survivor brought together lyricists and producers who helped define an era.
Steesh wants to recapture that spirit without simply living in the past.
His sprawling, looming 33-track project, The Bootstrap Paradox, brings together established underground talent, unreleased recordings and new collaborations. It also revives Baron Von Alias, a fictional English gentleman whose adventures blur the lines between Hip-Hop history, science fiction and comedy.
In an extensive conversation with AllHipHop’s Chuck “Jigsaw” Creekmur, Steesh discusses his unusual beginnings, the regional prejudices facing British rappers, the growing controversy surrounding AI-generated art and more.
And yes, Bart Simpson deserves some credit for his career.
AllHipHop: You’re from Newcastle, England. How did you first get into Hip-Hop?
Steesh: I think it was probably stuff like the Beastie Boys that got me into it. I remember hearing Skee-Lo’s “I Wish” when I was in school, and Tupac and all that kind of thing.
One of my first performances was when I was in primary school. I think it was one of the Bart Simpson songs, “Deep, Deep Trouble” or “Do the Bartman.” I ended up performing that in class. That’s probably how it all started when I was seven or eight years old.
AllHipHop: Shout out to Bart Simpson! That’s a first for me, and I don’t get a lot of firsts nowadays. Now, tell me about Baron Von Alias.
Steesh: I was always a producer. I started making beats and sending stuff over MySpace back in the day, connecting with people. I ended up working with artists like Joe Budden and Mickey Factz through collaborations.
Eventually, I wanted to rap on the beats myself. But I didn’t want to just come out as me. I wanted to create a character and stand out.
I ended up wearing a top hat, sunglasses and a mustache. It was about concealing my identity. That’s why “Alias” was in the name.
I wanted to be an old English gentleman who travels through time, connecting with all these Hip-Hop artists.
It started as just having a laugh. I was inspired by the Beastie Boys, especially the “Sabotage” video with the mustaches, wigs and outfits.
Then it became something bigger than I expected. I got record deals, played big festivals and had music featured on BBC Radio 1.
People would see the outfit and think it was a joke. Then they’d hear the music and say, “Oh, it’s better than I thought.”
AllHipHop: You’ve stayed true to that vision. How long has this new project been in development?
Steesh: This project has probably been about 18 years in the making.
I started as Baron Von Alias, then got sidetracked into different groups. I had all these tracks I’d never finished, beats from Khrysis going back to 2008, and features that never came out.
I thought, I need to come full circle, come back to the Baron, finish these tracks and create this huge collaboration album.
It’s displaying both sides of me. You’ve got Steesh as the producer, and then you’ve got the Baron tying everything together.
AllHipHop: You’ve got some serious heavyweights on there. What inspired you to put together such a massive project?
Steesh: I was massively inspired by the mid-to-late ’90s and early 2000s. The Rawkus stuff, Soundbombing II, Lyricist Lounge, Mos Def, Talib Kweli and Pharoahe Monch.
I was going through Soundbombing II, looking at the tracklist, thinking, “I wonder if I could contact these artists and make my own version of a Soundbombing collaboration album?”
Pete Rock’s Soul Survivor albums were another big inspiration. I used to listen to those over and over.
I think there’s about nine Khrysis beats on the album and an Oh No beat. The rest is mostly mine.
With Masta Ace, I didn’t think it was going to happen. Then I got a response about three months later. I had to shift things around because that was one I really wanted to make happen.
AllHipHop: You seem to have a special connection to Detroit. Where does that come from?
Steesh: It was always the J Dilla connection. I was a huge Dilla fan. I loved The Shining, and I knew he worked with Guilty Simpson.
I tried to connect with artists he worked with, like Elzhi, Guilty Simpson, Fat Kat and Frank N Dank.
A lot of them are featured on the new album. Some are old tracks from the vault, and I’ve gone back and made new collaborations with them as well.
AllHipHop: Do you think something is missing from today’s artists, or is this just the Baron traveling back through time?
Steesh: I wanted to capture that old sound without making something that sounded dated. Something nostalgic, but with a modern spin.
It’s new material. It’s about bringing that era into the future.
AllHipHop: What’s the Hip-Hop scene like in Newcastle compared to London?
Steesh: I think the north gets left out a little bit. The industry has always been very London-centric.
When people heard my Geordie accent, they’d sometimes laugh or ridicule it because they didn’t associate that accent with Hip-Hop.
Twenty years ago, people would tell you that if you wanted to make it in music, you had to move to London.
Now you’re hearing more regional accents from Manchester, Liverpool and other places. Social media has helped with that. People can release music without having to be in London.
AllHipHop: Let’s talk about sampling. Sometimes I hear artists sampling records that have already been sampled, and it feels like a cheat code.
Steesh: Especially when you know the original song, then you know the track that sampled it, and then another song comes out sampling that one.
You’re thinking, “Do something new!”
It’s tapping into nostalgia because people recognize the song. But I suppose the average listener hears it differently than a producer.
AllHipHop: We’re now in the streaming and AI era. Has technology liberated artists or confined them?
Steesh: I’ve never been a fan of people making music from scratch by typing prompts into AI.
I’m totally against that because it’s not really art. It’s not someone being creative.
I’ve learned how to play guitar, keyboards and drums. I wanted to understand how everything worked.
Now I see people saying, “Check out this new song I created,” and it’s completely AI-generated. I’m thinking, “What have you created?”
But I’m fine with AI being an assistant. Something like AI EQ that helps you find frequencies is useful.
I’ve used AI to animate artwork I’ve created, and people called it “AI slop.”
I’ve studied photography, graphic design and animation. I’ve worked in movie visual effects. But somebody with 100 followers on Instagram will criticize you without knowing anything about your background.
I think AI is fine as a tool, but there needs to be a human element.
AllHipHop: I agree. A lot of people are just lazy. Some aren’t talented, and suddenly they’re calling themselves AI artists. Now, could Baron Von Alias become something beyond music?
Steesh: I always imagined him as a cartoon character, something like Rick and Morty with time travel, different dimensions and portals.
The whole album is about different timelines and different versions of the Baron.
What if he’d connected with the Rawkus artists? What if he’d worked with the Justus League and 9th Wonder?
I’ve studied animation and made animated music videos that won awards at festivals.
I could imagine a 2D animated series, something with South Park-type humor. I’ve always had those ideas, but haven’t brought them to life yet.
AllHipHop: If you could put the Baron into one moment in Hip-Hop history, where would you put him?
Steesh: Probably the ’80s. I think the Baron would have gotten along with Humpty Hump. They could have made a song together.
The Beastie Boys, Slick Rick, Big Daddy Kane. All those characters and personalities would work with the Baron.
AllHipHop: I think you could put him on the set of “Same Song” with Tupac, Humpty Hump, Shock G and Digital Underground.
Steesh: Definitely. I’ll have to get in the time machine for that one!
AllHipHop: Give me your top five MCs, dead or alive.
Steesh: Mos Def would be one. Black on Both Sides was one of my favorite albums because of the musicality, the lyrics and the vocals.
Pharoahe Monch, definitely. Nas. André 3000, because OutKast was always one of my favorite groups. I listened to Aquemini a lot.
And probably Slick Rick. He was originally from England, so seeing someone from England become that successful made me think about the possibilities.
AllHipHop: You’re preparing a 33-track album. Why not just release everything at once?
Steesh: I don’t want to just dump 33 tracks on people.
I’m releasing singles and building interest first. The release date has changed a few times, so I haven’t nailed it down officially yet.
I’m also working on vinyl, but with that many tracks, I think I’ll have to spread it across three records.
I want physical products and merchandise because there’s more opportunity there than just streaming.
AllHipHop: You got me ready to start rapping again after this interview.
Steesh: Do it! You see these older artists coming back and making music. That inspired me.
You see someone like Ice-T releasing a new album, and you think, “I’m not too old either. I can still do it.”
That’s what keeps me going.